A Simple Paradox [Philosophy]
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[2012-05-23 22:19:49] djosp8 - Zeno assumed that ...
Zeno assumed that everything was ACTUALLY infinitely divided. If everything were actually infinitely divided, motion would be impossible, because you cannot cross an infinite number of parts in finite time. However, Aristotle has the concepts of actuality and potentiality, which are necessary in order to solve the paradox. Everything is potentially infinitely divisible, but not actually. Time and space are continuous
[2012-05-23 21:55:51] nicolhaidi - For example, I can ...For example, I can divide one meter in infinite parts, but this doesn't mean one meter = infinite. One meter is still one meter. Huh.
[2012-05-23 15:32:49] floobadoo - you drew the ...you drew the picture backwards, the halfway point is supposed to be after the initial point, and then cut in half, therefore never reaching its target, the way you drew it makes sense, even if you drew it the correct way, its not a paradox
[2012-05-23 03:35:27] hexmeohdear - Well he tried to ...Well he tried to bring up Planck, which is completely irrelevant. "if it's an infinite series of numbers, it'll mever, ever become finite, in no way!" Actually it will, if it is a converging series, not a diverging series.
[2012-05-23 01:46:12] IIRobertll - 1/2+1/4+1/8....=1. ...1/2+1/4+1/8....=1. It's the limit of an infinite series, not a paradox. Just because you found a fancy way to chop up 1 into infinitely many pieces that doesn't mean you weren't dealing with 1 the entire time. You're assuming that, as the distances get infinitely small, the time intervals don't, which doesn't make any sense.
[2012-05-22 22:37:49] Jounathhann25 - It only works ...It only works because it doesn't take time in account...
[2012-05-22 18:12:45] Vozs - Women...Women...
[2012-05-22 16:13:03] thomas evans - this is stupid.this is stupid.
[2012-05-22 15:19:22] CooLMAC78 - did you say ...did you say stonehenge? ಠ_ಠ
[2012-05-22 03:40:59] 427fulpeter - i got lost at 20 ...i got lost at 20 seconds
[2012-05-22 00:35:19] jackatamaster - it's awesome how ...it's awesome how God allows use to move
[2012-05-21 22:34:11] magoruthehedgehog - wow, wait a second ...wow, wait a second there, if it's an infinite series of numbers, it'll mever, ever become finite, in no way! btw, he wasn't being a smartass, he was just sharing his thinking about the so called 'paradox'... no offense btw
[2012-05-21 22:31:57] magoruthehedgehog - it's not hard at ...it's not hard at all, the arrow's path will stay the same, so you can keep getting halves forever, a number can ALWAYS be divided by 2, so if you keep making halves, the halves will not reach the arrow, but they can end on about 0.00000000001 picometer in front of the starting position of the arrow. so basicly, this is not a paradox, but just logic thinking :P
[2012-05-21 16:28:03] chippetychaps - The narrator is not ...The narrator is not saying that she has found a flaw in the laws of motion or anything of the sort. It's pretty fucking easy to see that things move. Rather, she is describing paradox previously outlined by Zeno (and recorded by Aristotle, or whatever) that was intended to engage the mind and allow people to think in a certain way. So congrats to you all, you've achieved a level of knowledge shared by the Ancient Greeks; your ancestors would be proud. Now quit acting like you've proven yourself!
[2012-05-21 15:37:52] hexmeohdear - Your explanation is ...Your explanation is dead fucking wrong. It does not assume matter is continuous. There is no paradox because it is a converging infinite series, and the sum of an infinite stream of increasingly smaller numbers is finite. And that is why you should stop acting like a smartass.
[2012-05-21 10:53:52] Xingmey - this comment made ...this comment made my day thx for sharing ;)
[2012-05-21 10:07:23] Flayprime - Contemplate the ...Contemplate the fractal geometry of a feather on an arrow in relation the the exact distance around the apple on your head, and then know that you have become the target of paradox debate. XD
[2012-05-20 22:43:42] 1337NoobLord - since by dividing ...since by dividing something by two you can never reach zero, as soon as the arrow moves a fraction it has reached the half way point of the smallest denomination
[2012-05-20 18:12:56] frodel70 - if you call this ...if you call this mindbending, your brain is made of cheese!
[2012-05-20 13:36:50] magnum13th - No.No.
[2012-05-20 12:51:28] StickMarsChannel - Nope, not true. To ...Nope, not true. To get from 1 point to another means reaching halfway, and half and half, BUT you can't halve something for there to be nothing there
[2012-05-20 02:56:21] ITConflict - Philosophy is an ...Philosophy is an interesting, mind-bending subject.
[2012-05-19 18:46:42] TheSergiy13 - T=L/V enjoyT=L/V enjoy
[2012-05-19 04:20:18] Marshyhippoman - Matter does not ...Matter does not occupy a definite point in space. We are all waves. Therefore we don't need to first make it halfway, since we are already there. Enjoy.
[2012-05-18 23:10:36] ReFlexPoison197 - Your definition of ...Your definition of paradox is different from others, a para dox is if a situation continues in an endless loop, your definition is simply a definition of something that goes to infinite. In your definition, if see pi as a paradox, which isn't classified as a paradox, therefore, you are incorrect =/
[2012-05-18 20:22:28] masteranthrax - actually noactually no
[2012-05-18 03:00:00] sTapleEVA - your going to die ...your going to die alone
[2012-05-18 02:31:50] snyderben6134 - Dumb bitch! Why ...Dumb bitch! Why arent you in the kitchen?
[2012-05-17 23:14:57] JuniorJackass89 - this is retarded... ...this is retarded... the only way to reach that first "half way point" would be moving, once it reaches that, it could simply hit the next "half way point." this bitch retarded
[2012-05-17 12:41:33] Arcknagar - This all gets ...This all gets thrown under the rug if you study fractal geometry.
[2012-05-16 23:37:46] nexus1g - You act as though ...You act as though anyone would believe you. The best case scenario for you is that you're still a moron: An idiotic troll.
[2012-05-16 19:23:28] challywag - Basically, the ...Basically, the movement of the arrow is not a series of events; it is a single motion that takes place within a particular timeframe. Each division of the motion reduces that timeframe, effectively slowing time down to the degree that nothing appaers to happen because time is running too slowly.
[2012-05-16 19:18:16] challywag - Firstly, this ...Firstly, this paradox was described by Zeno, not Aristotle, and it was never intended to be taken seriously. Zeno was the ancient Greek philisophical equivalent of a satirical comic. Secondly, the solution to it has nothing to do with granulated space-time. In fact it doesn't really need a solution at all when you understand how the scenario is constructed.
[2012-05-16 17:02:41] masteranthrax - well,i have to ...well,i have to apologyse for being a dick with you ahah,I CAN prove using limits logic. this is the sum of all terms of a geometric progression of ratio 0.1 with its first term being 0.9 .The formula that gives the sum of all terms of a geometric progression, proves that the sum of 0.9+0.09+0.009+...=1 AND 0.999..I knew it all the way ahah,your demonstration is also correct,just wanted to prove that as many people, you start calling names in arguements(not good).FUCK YOU cause i´m not a moron ;)
[2012-05-16 01:27:35] RuggedALAN - This is witchcraftThis is witchcraft
[2012-05-16 00:47:29] nexus1g - 1.000...1? How do ...1.000...1? How do you follow up an infinite with a number and still count it as an infinite so there can be no number between it and 1? Let's say X = .999... then let's multiply both sides by 10: 10x = 9.999... Now we solve from there to determine X: 10x - x = 9.999... - x; 9x = 9; x = 1. The funny part is you're arguing with me, and I double checked my info early on when you first to ensure I was right. You should have done the same, and you'll have looked less like a complete lying moron.
[2012-05-15 23:16:31] masteranthrax - I´ll not respond ...I´ll not respond anymore due to your lack of knowledge..BUT let´s follow your logic,there´s no number between 0.999.. and 1 so it´s 1, ok then, than there´s no number between 1 and 1.000...1, so it´s 1, there´s no number between the 1.000...2 and 1,000..1 and cause 1,00..1 is 1 then 1,00..2 is 1,( years later) there´s no number between 1.49999.. and 1.5 so 1.5 is 1 cause 1,499.. is 1, and so and so on, do you understand the falty logic here? You didn´t prove that 0.999.. is 1 cause it never is 1
[2012-05-15 22:52:44] nexus1g - 3/3 is .999... AND ...3/3 is .999... AND 1. You would say that 2/3 + 1/3 = 1. Convert that to decimals, and you get .666... + .333... = .999... Therefore, .999... = 1. More evidence? There is no number between .999... and 1. Therefore, .999... = 1.
[2012-05-15 21:12:57] IAmzMcHATIN - What if Pinochio ...What if Pinochio said the sentence "My nose will grow in 3 seconds." What will happen? Think about it.
[2012-05-15 17:23:48] masteranthrax - 1/3=0.333... 2/3= ...1/3=0.333... 2/3=0.666... 3/3= 1. extremely correct... however it does not prove your point of 0.999(infinite)=1...cause, you are thinking 3/3 as if it was = 0.9999, but it´s not. it is 1. And if you think, the fact of being 1, is the one that makes us say that 1/3 is 0.333... cause only the 0.3333(infinite) plus other two 0.33333 (infinite ) =1... cause you can try whatever you want, if the 0.3333 is not infinite the outcome when you add the rest wil be 0.99999, that´s why 1/3 has to be 0.(3).