How to make Lithium Polymer Batteries for Electric Car
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[2012-03-19 16:54:17] BGLSboarder - incorrect- fuel ...
incorrect- fuel cells have the highest energy density.
[2012-03-04 09:07:49] kiddolols - is there oxygen in ...is there oxygen in the room? why are the lithium sheets no oxidizing?
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[2012-02-08 13:23:47] superusermode - I think the voice ...I think the voice is David Schwimmer from Friends
[2012-01-30 01:39:37] aForkandaSpoon - You jacked this ...You jacked this from how its made and replaced the sound track with your music and shit voice.
[2012-01-19 10:42:08] Tmaker197812 - Someone who told ...Someone who told you that was wrong. You'd better think twice and check it again yourself ))).
[2012-01-18 20:10:11] TheKjuno - Acctualy not, couse ...Acctualy not, couse conductive polymers have been discovered some 10 - 15 years ago, and still not understod very well
[2012-01-18 20:08:58] TheKjuno - Couse lithium has ...Couse lithium has the highest energy density
[2012-01-06 14:29:58] Tmaker197812 - no you are wrong - ...no you are wrong - they have not reached the limit in technology. They simply do not understand principles to make it right.
[2012-01-06 14:24:23] Tmaker197812 - does anybody know ...does anybody know WHY they chose lithium ?
[2012-01-02 08:43:03] 10p6 - "Hot to make?" I ..."Hot to make?" I think it should read "How they make!" I have a lot of tools, but non which are capable of making a 'Lithium Battery'
[2011-12-21 21:50:04] 2ndhandSmoking - Very cool. I want ...Very cool. I want a small battery to run a bicycle.
[2011-11-21 01:54:58] bertazoid - charge controllers ...charge controllers ensure there is no danger of this happening (i.e. electronics on the attached circuit board). They are no more dangerous than petroleum cars
[2011-11-04 19:18:10] arnoldaszlt - EASY i'm gonna ...EASY i'm gonna make it.
[2011-10-17 06:18:47] Myrtone - Except in this case ...Except in this case the batteries don't catch fire from a match, they catch fire from overchanging and other misuse. Straight electric vehicles such as trams, trains and trolleybuses do not have these problems, trolleybuses for example do need batteries but only for limited off-wire use.
[2011-10-17 05:04:51] emforty2 - and so is gasoline ...and so is gasoline try lighting a match near it
[2011-10-16 12:06:40] mrdojob - This is the pinical ...This is the pinical of battery tech and its 20 years old. While i love the idea of the electric car its not a secret that batteries have been researched twice as long as cars and still the best we get expensive, long charging, short lifespan and not enough power for cars. Give it up now will you. Battery tech have reached the limit and still they are destined to fail.
[2011-09-23 18:57:20] MrHolozip - petrol is pretty ...petrol is pretty explosive too ;)
[2011-09-02 10:29:12] Myrtone - Lithium Polymer ...Lithium Polymer batteires are actually a fire hazard. They can catch alight if overcharged.
[2011-08-24 07:49:46] ds2626 - yeah but if you ...yeah but if you crash and puncture a hole in the battery i explodes....
[2011-08-07 19:36:52] b101aa2 - huh? you are ...huh? you are commenting me. i didn't change the subject. you did. i am not trolling you. you are trolling me. and as a side note, lipo's have an operating temp, sure. but you put a heavy load on a lipo, like going up hill, it becomes way way hotter then flat and steady. simple physics of current draw, ie amperage. your 110F can become 250F in about 10 seconds. which note, 110F max you say? they've blow up just sitting in a parking lot during the summer. cheers.
[2011-08-07 18:53:54] Saulscmit - That doesn't ...That doesn't warrant an arguement. You simply changed the topic. An electrical charge gives lithium enough energy to ignite. Due to resistance it eats up. Lithium's opperating temperature is 50 Degrees C, or 110 Degrees F.
[2011-08-05 18:18:14] sparkygl0s - I would prefer this ...I would prefer this video without the noise which they use instead of music.
[2011-07-31 23:08:24] b101aa2 - fail huh. ever seen ...fail huh. ever seen a lip pack ignite? the rc world heavily uses lipo packs (lithium polymer batteries). there is almost no one that is not familar to what happens when a lipo pack gets hot and ignites. this this X 200 and you have batteries in cars. enjoy the incineration video: EseOhC8n7ro that video, the guy's pack got hot, so he removed it fast and isolated it from his equipment. as per the status quo, POOF.
[2011-07-31 18:52:37] Saulscmit - Fail, it tarnishes ...Fail, it tarnishes on contact with air. Only rubidium & higher elements (alkali metals only) ignite spontaneously on contact with air. if misused even only for a few seconds it will ignite then....such as: overcharging, overheating, diliberate contact with acids or water & many other things.
[2011-07-15 21:27:48] H2OMFG - ...smh...smh
[2011-07-07 00:15:27] servicesafloatnz - Where can we buy ...Where can we buy these batteries. Need 48 volt banks
[2011-07-05 05:16:59] b101aa2 - and there you go ...and there you go again... Lithium Polymer = "Li" "Po" = LIPO... LIPO PACK.. about 6,510,000 results (0.27 seconds) here in the u.s. google it like you have been doing since your pulling hairs there already... hey, ever exposed lithium to the atmosphere, aka opened on up? do it, watch what happens.. better yet, crack one and watch what happens... poof, everything around it is toasted... now, scale that up to 200 lbs... car and people, roasted.. anywho ltr arm chair...
[2011-07-05 05:14:36] JRP3 - You're right, I ...You're right, I should go away, because you have no idea what you are talking about and I'm wasting my time. Keep waiting to run out of lithium and keep waiting for EV battery packs to explode. Neither one is going to happen, sorry for the dose of reality, please return to your previously scheduled delusions.
[2011-07-05 05:09:11] JRP3 - That's funny, ...That's funny, because LG Chem, the company that actually makes the Volt cells, calls them Lithium Polymer, not lipo. In any case, most of the Volt pack weight is the cells, but it's not mostly lithium. As I said, lithium carbonate is probably less than 40lbs.
[2011-07-05 05:07:18] b101aa2 - dang, you don't ...dang, you don't stop. just go away. you off base with everything you say. you obviously don't know anything about this subject, because lithium carbonate is a process used to extract the lithium mineral itself. the carbonate process of it is CARBON... ie, that pesky global warming thing that is proven bogus. also, i actually do know a little something about it. if you need to google everything for a bit of info you know nothing about, just bug off. it's like arm chair piloting...
[2011-07-05 05:03:36] JRP3 - OK, you need to ...OK, you need to understand the difference between lithium and lithium carbonate. I got my numbers from Chemetall's website. I think they might know something about lithium reserves.
[2011-07-05 04:36:24] b101aa2 - you google that or ...you google that or something. i said lithium. that doesn't include the wires, casing, mounting, shell for protection because if it explodes, everything is incinerated nearby. 400 lbs for the whole pack... and btw, lipoly are refered to as lipo cells, ie lipo packs. bias, ya, since you spouted off crazy numbers that are 10 times the actual numbers by the entire planet of who actual knows. education, god i hope i know, cause i have several large lipo's about 8' away. yet alone investments
[2011-07-05 04:29:08] JRP3 - I guess math is not ...I guess math is not easy for you. Talk about bias, you're wrong again. First, the Volt pack is almost 400lbs, but the amount of lithium carbonate in it is probably less than 40lbs. Different lithium chemistries use different amounts of lithium carbonate, LiFePO4 uses even less than the LiPoly Volt pack. Instead of trying to tell me how little I know you should probably try educating yourself about the lithium batteries you don't think we can build.
[2011-07-05 04:24:10] b101aa2 - look at: usgs . gov ...look at: usgs . gov/minerals/pubs/mcs/2010/mcs2010.pdf not exactly 200 million tons. no idea where you got that from, because the entire planet's scientific and engineering communities have never said 200 million. it is 23... math...
[2011-07-05 04:21:08] b101aa2 - also, know much on ...also, know much on chemistry? the average auto using lithium batteries, the manufacturing is equivalent to 100,000 miles driven already with gasoline based carbon output. why, because "lithium carbonate production" it takes an immense amount of carbon based processing to create lithium batteries. actually. that is how lithium is processed. and, it can be used only once. once the minerals in lithium are used up, that's it. no recycling. just toxic waste. cheers
[2011-07-05 04:11:31] b101aa2 - @JRP3 the mining ...@JRP3 the mining industry. wiki, the oil industry, and wall street have it estimated that there are 23 million tons total of known lithium. that includes afghanistan. bolivia and afghanistan are the two only known large deposits. the rest is sporadic. as there are deposits in most salt beds, there however isn't huge quanities. 1 chevy volt lithium battery is close to 200 pounds. That is only 1 car... just 1. so @ mil cars, that is 200 mil pounds / 100,000 tons. math is easy. bias is not.
[2011-07-05 03:57:17] JRP3 - A recent increase ...A recent increase in demand coupled with a temporary limitation of production caused the price increase, and your profits. However that is not the same thing as limitations or restrictions of the actual resource. As lithium becomes more valuable more mines will be brought online. Chemettal lists current estimated reserves of lithium carbonate at 150,000,000 tons, and current world wide demand at 122,000 tons. They estimate world wide resources will last over 1,000 years. Plenty.
[2011-07-04 22:21:15] b101aa2 - how about instead ...how about instead of searching for keywords that are biased in nature, instead search for factual information. try lithium mining deposits... and i know this subject quite well. i own apx 400,000 shares of stock in 3 different lithium mining companies. just the capital gains taxes i've paid over the last few years is more then i have ever paid for anything, because lithium prices have sky rocketed. many many times more then gold or silver, due to there being limited supply.
[2011-07-04 20:31:00] JRP3 - Um, no not quite ...Um, no not quite true at all. I have learned something about the topic, and what I learned is that there is plenty of lithium. In fact, why don't you Google "plenty of lithium" and start reading. Yes the price of lithium has gone up, which is why, as I stated, lithium mines in the US are starting up again. The fact is there is very little lithium in a lithium battery.
[2011-07-04 20:12:33] b101aa2 - um, no... quite ...um, no... quite true... learn a bit on the topic before you spout out that it's false. and why lithium ore has gone up 8 fold in price since 2006. not 800%, but 8 fold. and it is not like it is some closely guarded secret about there are only 2 significant deposits, in hostile countries. and credible, try the entire mining industry on planet earth.
[2011-07-04 14:40:29] JRP3 - Completely false. ...Completely false. Lithium is quite abundant, so much so that mines in the US have shut down because the price of lithium is so low. Some of them will be reopening now that the demand for lithium is increasing. Any credible study shows that lithium supplies will be able to keep up with demand for a very long time.