Zeno's Paradox # 1





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[2012-05-08 22:06:42] MeekErinovski - you missed the ...

you missed the point my friend

[2012-05-08 22:05:54] MeekErinovski - he wasn't saying ...

he wasn't saying they were an illusion, nor was he saying they were impossible he was demonstrating the way we try and define movement is not adequate and logically it cannot explain movement, he argued movement was possible but we cannot explain it if we argue to exist in a divisible universe because if we do then we are confronted by this paradox, which also undermines our concept of time and any form of change, motion or progress.

[2012-03-11 14:28:13] BurningPanOfLight - Imagine two equally ...

Imagine two equally paced people and one was being chased by the other. The one chasing would have to travel half of the gap between the two to catch up. But if they are equally paced the gap would stay the same between them.

[2012-03-06 00:41:07] SureBarb - It has nothing to ...

It has nothing to do with it being half the distance. In the time that it takes Achilles to close the gap the tortoise progresses. In the time it takes for Achilles to close THAT gap the tortoise progresses a bit further ad infinitum. Nothing about going half the distance...sheesh.

[2011-11-08 19:38:05] canadianbacon007 - "I suppose I should ...

"I suppose I should trust a philosopher" Good one!

[2011-10-30 00:50:42] makatozi - not really a ...

not really a paradox as the "paradox" contradicts itself. On the one hand it states that space is infinitely divisible (objects can never reach their targets) but at the same time specifies information that can never be known if space was infinitely divisible - sich as the exact location of things, the distance between them and the half-way point.. So in conclusion - you can't have it both ways.

[2011-10-17 00:10:28] saber1992 - this is bullshit!!! ...

this is bullshit!!!! obviously he would catch him as long an achilles is faster he would not travel 1/2 the distance everytime..... nor does this prove anything about motion.

[2011-09-01 10:13:59] Samueljspencer - Horribly explained.

Horribly explained.

[2011-07-19 13:36:30] Peter1992t - Because you have to ...

Because you have to travel half the distance before reaching the full distance.

[2011-07-18 19:11:31] JimmyPaigeIsGod36 - But why does he ...

But why does he HAVE to ravel 1/2 the distance?

[2011-04-26 00:08:43] mlgrd - Because your not ...

Because your not always traveling half the distance?

[2011-04-13 20:01:54] twattythirky - terribly explained ...

terribly explained :/ 

[2011-04-05 08:01:08] davoisakoollord - Zeno - your ...

Zeno - your argument is invalid

[2011-01-20 12:36:45] giaky3876 - nice video what is ...

nice video what is the name of the musics

[2011-01-19 05:04:03] batitombo - Ohh god, this ' ...

Ohh god, this 'paradox' again! This is not even a paradox

[2011-01-11 12:54:33] TimeEinstein - zeno arrow moves ...

zeno arrow moves in space only and not in time.

[2010-12-30 05:18:48] Kevin4779 - are you all stupid?

are you all stupid?

[2010-12-27 01:36:40] WavesOfTrolls - lol

lol

[2010-12-18 17:27:39] DimzzyA - Yes, but that's ...

Yes, but that's only providing that Archillies is moving at the same speed as the Tortoise.

[2010-11-26 23:00:43] tellemscrappy - i get it now...he ...

i get it now...he has to reach a halfway point before he can get to the sheep...but since ther r infinite halfway points he'll always be behind the turtle thats wat logic says but he gets in front off the sheep...i mean turtle

[2010-11-18 20:38:26] drrobertoboogie97 - Zeno sucks cock on ...

Zeno sucks cock on a daily basis, 1/2+1/4+1/8+..=1 Everyone with simple mathematical knowledge can prove that, but I'll prove that here anyways: If we assume that 1/2+1/4+1/8+..=S, we can calculate that 2S=1+1/2+1/4+..=1+S, so S=1.

[2010-11-18 20:30:21] drrobertoboogie97 - Zeno's paradoxes ...

Zeno's paradoxes are complete dog shit, it can be easily disproven by easy physics or easy math that Achilles reaches the tortoise in 1+1/10+1/100+... seconds (which can be calculated as 10/9 by easy math) if we think that the tortoise is 1 m away from Achilles at the start and Achilles' speed is 1 m/s and the tortoise's is 1/10 m/s.

[2010-10-01 20:20:21] StylemasterKaze - It's the same as ...

It's the same as the archer's paradox. I think its more of a Philosophical argument than a logical one.

[2010-09-17 04:43:40] xXxDiukexXx - considering that ...

considering that when that paradox was thinked, they didnt knew about velocity.... hmm its a fail now?

[2010-09-12 08:21:43] SPAZZY1912 - zeno is complete ...

zeno is complete bullshit, if you run faster than the slower person, you will eventually overtake them,

[2010-08-29 00:17:29] muranyiii - the velocity is ...

the velocity is different.... sorry zeno

[2010-07-22 12:05:12] SseBb - this is awsome!!

this is awsome!!

[2010-07-08 17:33:31] quitejaded - I think that is the ...

I think that is the paradox. Because, logically (with OUR math assumptions), it shouldn't move. But realistically, it does. Since the only thing that really matters in life is whether something WORKS, I don't really care about this paradox. I don't care if the math says one thing, but reality says another. But somehow, our math works in the real world most of the time!!

[2010-07-08 16:52:01] quitejaded - But here's the ...

But here's the thing. Why does the turtle get to REACH his goal and Achillese is subjected to this arbitrary limit of zero? Also, how is the turtle 1/4 ahead when A. is 3/4 ahead? The turtle could be really slow. A. could be .99 and the turle only .01 ahead. And continue this until you can get to zero. I suppose the point is you can never get to zero. But these are just human made numbers. I don't think it proves anything.

[2010-06-17 22:03:03] netzweltler - Let´s assume there ...

Let´s assume there is a system, where Zeno´s argument is valid, you as a part of this system can never prove a paradox. If you are watching the clock during the race, the hand of the clock will never reach the next second, because it first has to reach half a second, then another quarter and so on. So the clock and even you and your consciousness as a part of this system are subject to the same rules, and time and space is still linear within this system, and Achilles eventually wins the race.

[2010-06-12 18:24:03] quitejaded - Ugh, no. It still ...

Ugh, no. It still doesn't make sense.

[2010-05-12 21:35:58] AnonymousBAD - To me, it's more ...

To me, it's more about the failings of trying to understand the world through math and theory alone- It's not saying, in my mind, that movement is an illusion, but that our labeling of "halfway points" and trying to quantify things in this manner is incorrect. This logic is absolutely sound, so it leads me to believe that there is some function of space and time that we do not understand.

[2010-05-11 20:47:20] badboyfrvr - From what I have ...

From what I have learnt, he was trying to show that logically movement/change is impossible.

[2010-04-29 22:38:59] AnonymousBAD - ... You're stupid. ...

... You're stupid. The point is that, logically, he SHOULDN'T be able to outrun the turtle because of the halfway points, which are infinite.

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